tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-811591306049850735.post1618833833440123629..comments2024-03-26T11:29:49.221-07:00Comments on Frack-Land: Guest Post: Frack Free Somerset Meeting, 22nd MarchDr JVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14105249808644069495noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-811591306049850735.post-43820699885968876582015-03-20T11:04:20.550-07:002015-03-20T11:04:20.550-07:00In Western Canada (Alberta) anti-CBM activists use...In Western Canada (Alberta) anti-CBM activists used similar misleading presentations of the ubiquity of coal deposits in the area to calculate and predict thousands of wells were soon to be drilled. They also used images from Wyoming of sites with surface disposal of salt water - the Wyoming coals require huge dewatering, while the Alberta coals are essentially dry, and surface disposal is against the law in Alberta. None of these geological issues were considered important to the group, and to even mention them was to be anti-environmental.<br /><br />The eco-green here is non-technical and in some ways anti-science or anti-logic. I think they feel that technical information only brings confusion to issues that are fundamentally social or ideological. The number and area of CBM or fracking activities is irrelevant; the existence of any, is the problem in their minds.<br /><br />There is no gray area in much of the environmental positions. Golden Rice is out because all GMO activity is out. Natural gas and nuclear are not acceptable anywhere, anyhow for any period of time. They take the same hard stand against the fossil fuel and biological industries as the rest of us take against pedophilia: there is no acceptable place in this world and our lives for any.<br /><br />I think that, if pushed, they would admit it is this way. But they recognize that this is a difficult position to justify, so they don't advertise where they are truly coming from. <br /><br />The Lenin-Stalinists believed that a violent uprising by the proletariat was necessary to rid themselves of bourgeois social systems. But they didn't say it outloud, because the majority would not agree. The eco-green activists are doing the same: believe in X but express Y, so that the power they need to effect the true state they believe in might be granted them.Doug Proctorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16005942844872308880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-811591306049850735.post-24197854694791435772014-04-14T17:22:20.945-07:002014-04-14T17:22:20.945-07:00To the anonymous poster above - you accuse Dr Robi...To the anonymous poster above - you accuse Dr Robinson of not being up to speed, and then you go on to cite "Texas and California's dire water shortage due to fracking". Er, what? Any fracking operations currently under way in California are small-scale. And anyone who takes the time to put water usage figures for fracking into context will see that the process only uses a tiny portion of the water used by other kinds of industrial operations, including coal-fired power plants, as well as agriculture. So whatever is causing the "dire" water shortage in Texas, it won't be fracking.<br /><br />I thought this was an excellent article that illustrates the challenges that scientists and others are facing in trying to engage in a sensible debate on the risks and merits of shale gas development in the UK, and indeed elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-811591306049850735.post-25785718394426573932014-04-04T05:13:00.591-07:002014-04-04T05:13:00.591-07:00All the above by Mr D Robinson, May I point out is...All the above by Mr D Robinson, May I point out is as he states taken from The Royal Society report. Lets just be clear who's chairman of the Royal Society, It's Lord John Browne, the very same Lord John Brown that owns Cuadrilla...... Have we all joined the dots yet?? Your argument is invalid Doug Robinson. And as for your claims on water usage, You don't seem upto speed sir. Just take a look at Texas and Califonia's dire water shortage due to fracking.... let's not forget that water thats contaminated whilst used in the fracking process can NEVER be returned to the water cycle ever again. As yet , none of these companies that want to frack for their own proffit can say what they are doing with their radioactive poisoned fracking water. Good day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-811591306049850735.post-61218390594069772722014-03-27T15:18:16.953-07:002014-03-27T15:18:16.953-07:00Article on Blackburn diocese website is http://www...Article on Blackburn diocese website is http://www.blackburn.anglican.org/more_info.asp?current_id=469<br /><br />EnjoyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-811591306049850735.post-5734754984242467262014-03-27T15:16:39.871-07:002014-03-27T15:16:39.871-07:00Well, well, well. I would never have believed it :...Well, well, well. I would never have believed it :( It was the terrible earthquakes in Lancashire in 2011 which put cracks in my house 15 miles away that made me look into fracking :) As a geologist I found every claim made by fractivists crumbled when followed up. I had a similar problem at a recent meeting in Lancashire. I will be posting on my blog http://michaelroberts4004.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/why-i-support-fracking-on-my-doorstep-in-lancashire/ a fuller report on that meeting and the cuadrilla open day. The one mention is what I wrote for the local press. Part of my problem is this article on the diocese of Blackburn website as I am a retired vicar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com